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Re^2: A Word Game

by LanX (Saint)
on Feb 09, 2022 at 20:42 UTC ( [id://11141290]=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re: A Word Game
in thread A Word Game (Update 3)

> I added a grep to only allow words with a vowel (or "y"):

since "j" is a variant of "i", I wouldn't be surprised if it was occasionally used as a vowel

Cheers Rolf
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Re^3: A Word Game
by jdporter (Paladin) on Feb 09, 2022 at 21:15 UTC

    Not in English.

    What we do see is the use of 'j' in place of 'i' when that 'i' is functioning more like a consontantal 'y'. For example, eject from Latin eiectus

      Yes, but English tends to incorporate loanwords into its dictionary without adjusting the orthography.

      edit

      tho I doubt there is an example where it's the only vowel.

      Cheers Rolf
      (addicted to the Perl Programming Language :)
      Wikisyntax for the Monastery

        tho I doubt there is an example where it's the only vowel.
        $ grep -P '^[b-df-hj-np-tvwxz]{5}$' /usr/share/dict/words crwth fldxt fpsps hdqrs mphps pgntt phpht smrgs

        Not that /usr/share/dict/words is the ultimate arbiter but I'd say such a thing was at least so rare as to be inconsequential to the task at hand. It might be worth making a case for "w", OTOH.


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Re^3: A Word Game
by kcott (Archbishop) on Feb 10, 2022 at 01:49 UTC
    "since "j" is a variant of "i", I wouldn't be surprised if it was occasionally used as a vowel"

    The word "fjord" springs to mind. I expect there are others.

    — Ken

        Apparently it's still occasionally written "fiord" in New Zealand.

        At least autocorrection accepted° this without complaining.

        Cheers Rolf
        (addicted to the Perl Programming Language :)
        Wikisyntax for the Monastery

        update

        °) hm ... wrote this on my mobile

        On my desktop FF is now complaining about, fiord while chrome isn't.

        All say that an "English (US)" dictionary is used.

      I'd call that a consonant.

        I've only ever heard that pronounced as FEE-ord; including by Slartibartfast.

        — Ken

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