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Re: Demotions of monks

by erzuuli (Cannon)
on Jan 05, 2022 at 20:59 UTC ( #11140190=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Demotions of monks

As with many changes on the site, this one should be considered "experimental" or "provisional". Throw it against the wall and see what sticks.

I'm soliciting opinions. My own is that "pope" is both too singular (very unique?) in that the Catholic Church only has one pope (except under extremely extraordinary circumstances), and too specific to one particular religious sect. "Patriarch", on the other hand, is more generic, and is used by a variety of sects: there can be, and in fact are, numerous patriarchs in the world at any given time.

Perhaps we should consider a term from other monastic traditions, such as... lama?

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Re^2: Demotions of monks
by eyepopslikeamosquito (Archbishop) on Jan 05, 2022 at 22:39 UTC

    I like that vroom's one million XP level is unattainable for ordinary mortals and suggest it be left alone in the interests of preserving the quirky history and tradition of Perl Monks.

    Given that three monks have already scaled the rarefied 100,000 XP plateau, we should ensure their awe-inspiring XP journey remains captivating -- both for them and their many enthralled fans. The obvious way to do that is to simply add a few more levels, something like:

    LevelXP# Of VotesTitle
    2810000054Patriarch
    2915000056?
    3020000058?
    3125000060?
    321000000100His Eminence

    I'm not that interested in the titles given to these new super-elite levels. Suggestions welcome, especially from those with a passion for religious history and tradition.

      And then upon reaching these top levels the newly leveled monk will have to seek out one of the prior holders and defeat them in single combat without using magic weapo . . . wait, are we still doing 1st edition?

      Slightly (very) more seriously, maybe something like go rankings and numbered ranks (1 Patriarch to 9 Patriarch). Or playing off the lama suggestion, different species of genus Camelidae. Combining the two eventually one could aspire to the revered title of 9 Alpaca.

      The cake is a lie.
      The cake is a lie.
      The cake is a lie.

        There are plenty of clerical ranks left in the Catholic church. It even has some patriarchs, so we can reintroduce pope on the next level.

        Or Nuncio somewhere near Cardinal.

        No need to break the logic by introducing karate belts or ninja turtles.

        I'm already confused by non clerical ranks like Sage or Saint.

        A saint must be dead, JP-II was pope and had to die before canonizing thru the ranks of venerable, blessed and saint.

        The afterlife offers even more heavenly ranks... Vroom could be an archangle

        Cheers Rolf
        (addicted to the Perl Programming Language :)
        Wikisyntax for the Monastery
        </d:iv>

        Or - and hear me out here - because with PM XP you start low and increase in rank over time / with contributions, it's more like a queue than a stack. So maybe SHIFTe rather than POPe....
      Til level 22 Bishop ΔXP was constantly growing, then it stalled at 10000.

      From there on climbing ranks didn't become harder anymore.

      see Levels of Monks for details

      Readjusting those deltas to constant grow would give you your extra levels in a natural way, without needing to invent new ranks.

      This would actually mean a demotion, now for real.

      But I wouldn't care.

      Tho I think the monastery has more urgent problems...

      Cheers Rolf
      (addicted to the Perl Programming Language :)
      Wikisyntax for the Monastery

      ) Here a rough sketch. The deltas would of course need to be properly rounded to steps modulo 1000

      DB<4> say join ':', $_,$d*=1.25,$xp+=$d for 23..28 23:12500:52500 24:15625:68125 25:19531.25:87656.25 26:24414.0625:112070.3125 27:30517.578125:142587.890625 28:38146.97265625:180734.86328125

      as you can see, even BUK would need to reincarnate to reach (28) patriarch again ;-)

      ) well it was far easier in the old times to gather XP, but that's not the point here

      ) loss of rank would only happen to less than 20 monks actually

      No one suggested that vroom's XP be messed with...

        > No one suggested that vroom's XP be messed with...

        not yet.

        my suggestion is lift the plateau to 10 or 100 million, to make the joke more apparent. :)

        Cheers Rolf
        (addicted to the Perl Programming Language :)
        Wikisyntax for the Monastery

      Suggestions welcome, especially from those with a passion for religious history and tradition

      I don't pay a lot of attention to religious history and tradition.
      But, if there's any interest in gender-balance, I would suggest the inclusion of one or more of "Nun", "Sister" and "Mother Superior".
      Has none of this come up before ??

      Cheers,
      Rob

      What's the point? We have only three patriarchs/popes at this point, with no more any time in the foreseeable future.

        I think eyepops' point was that the patriarchs have no way to improve anymore.

        Cheers Rolf
        (addicted to the Perl Programming Language :)
        Wikisyntax for the Monastery

        ) hmm, could we introduce automatically expanded shortcuts for saints with overly long complicated names? ;)

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