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in reply to Re^3: Demotions of monks (updated)
in thread Demotions of monks

confusing patriarch with matriarch?

What about renaming the rank to pmatriarch? That would include the male AND the female form, and is also a play on the abbreviation of our site ....

We could also determine the name of the rank below vroom by a poll ...

Have a great 2022! Rata

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Re^5: Demotions of monks (gender bender)
by LanX (Sage) on Jan 05, 2022 at 13:40 UTC
    "female-exclusive" means "exclusively female", i.e. no males allowed.

    She probably meant female-excludent

    Anyway, the word "monk" is male!

    There has always been a "generic male form" in grammar.

    my 2cents: It would be far more efficient to exclude female forms in favour of the generic male, hence abandoning "explicit male" too, instead of inventing new grammar.

    The originally male forms are normally shorter.

    Cheers Rolf
    (addicted to the Perl Programming Language :)
    Wikisyntax for the Monastery

    ) do you want to register a new sites for perlnuns?

      Well, "excludent" isn't a word in English. The proper word would be "excluding", but that still sounds somewhat awkward. I believe "exclusive" is correct, but it makes me realize that the word has, to some extent, become its own antonym.

        The proper word would be "excluding", but that still sounds somewhat awkward

        I was thinking that "female-exclusive" would be taken to mean "exclusive of females".
        If I wanted to convey "exclusively female", then I would have used that exact phrase. It might have been clearer if I had written "exclusively male".

        The level "Patriarch" is the only level that I regard as "male only" - though my 25-year-old Concise Oxford Dictionary decrees that a "monk" is male.
        All of the other levels look gender-neutral (ie implying neither male nor female) to me - and I still find it interesting (and mildly unsettling) that, in 2021, we have created this specifically male level named "Patriarch".

        Cheers,
        Rob
        > I believe "exclusive" is correct,

        please search the internet for "member exclusive" and show me the instances where it meant that members were excluded. ;-)

        Cheers Rolf
        (addicted to the Perl Programming Language :)
        Wikisyntax for the Monastery