Re: PerlMonks main page: garbled character encoding

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Re^2: PerlMonks main page: garbled character encoding by jdporter (Paladin) on Mar 22, 2021 at 13:50 UTC
Interesting. When viewing the page not logged in, Firefox reports the following info: Type: text/html Render Mode: Quirks mode Text Encoding: GBK When logged in, Firefox reports the following info: Type: text/html Render Mode: Quirks mode Text Encoding: windows-1252 Why would the encoding be different? I think the browser is inferring the encoding from the page's content... and the content is different if you're logged in.	[reply]
Re^3: PerlMonks main page: garbled character encoding by LanX (Saint) on Mar 22, 2021 at 14:26 UTC
Firefox shows me the HTTP header `Content-Type:text/html` when I'm not logged in. The `; charset=Windows-1252` part is missing. `HTTP/1.1 200 OK Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2021 14:27:09 GMT Server: Apache Last-Modified: Mon, 22 Mar 2021 14:27:05 GMT ETag: "efc2-5be20dc244d70" Accept-Ranges: bytes Content-Length: 61378 Keep-Alive: timeout=5, max=98 Connection: Keep-Alive Content-Type: text/html` [download] A check in Chrome shows the same: `HTTP/1.1 200 OK Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2021 14:19:57 GMT Server: Apache Last-Modified: Mon, 22 Mar 2021 14:18:09 GMT ETag: "effb-5be20bc33b176" Accept-Ranges: bytes Content-Length: 61435 Content-Type: text/html` [download] Logged in (FF) `HTTP/2 200 OK date: Mon, 22 Mar 2021 14:24:41 GMT server: Apache content-type: text/html; charset=Windows-1252 X-Firefox-Spdy: h2` [download] Cheers Rolf _{(addicted to the Perl Programming Language :) Wikisyntax for the Monastery} update That's RAT no log-in ... `charset=Windows-1252` is back `HTTP/1.1 200 OK Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2021 15:15:43 GMT Server: Apache Keep-Alive: timeout=5, max=100 Connection: Keep-Alive Transfer-Encoding: chunked Content-Type: text/html; charset=Windows-1252` [download]	[reply] [d/l] [select]
Re^4: PerlMonks main page: garbled character encoding by jdporter (Paladin) on Mar 22, 2021 at 16:29 UTC
OK, that would suggest that it's the server, rather than the browser, making the (weird) charset determination. In any case, I'm 99.9% sure it's not the PM Engine doing it.	[reply]
Re^5: PerlMonks main page: garbled character encoding by pryrt (Abbot) on Mar 22, 2021 at 22:23 UTC
Re^3: PerlMonks main page: garbled character encoding by footpad (Abbot) on Mar 22, 2021 at 21:55 UTC
In this day and age, one wonders why we're not using: `<!DOCTYPE html> <head> <meta charset="utf-8"> <!-- ... -->` [download] --f	[reply] [d/l]
Re^2: PerlMonks main page: garbled character encoding by hippo (Bishop) on Mar 22, 2021 at 13:53 UTC
I can confirm. I can refute: it renders fine here in Pale Moon 29.1.0. Perhaps it is a browser-specific quirk? 🦛	[reply]
Re^3: PerlMonks main page: garbled character encoding by LanX (Saint) on Mar 22, 2021 at 14:36 UTC
I think your browser does a better guessing when charset is missing in the headers. My guess: There are some Apache settings to serve the "Monastery Gates" better to bots which are not up to date. Cheers Rolf _{(addicted to the Perl Programming Language :) Wikisyntax for the Monastery} PS: Pale Moon looks interesting. Would be nice to know if it still supports the mozrepl add-on. This would also give WWW::Mechanize::Firefox a lifeline.	[reply]
Re^4: PerlMonks main page: garbled character encoding (pale moon) by hippo (Bishop) on Mar 22, 2021 at 15:39 UTC
I think your browser does a better guessing when charset is missing in the headers. In all honesty I suspect it is just luck. Under Tools->Preferences->Content->Fonts & Colours->Advanced->Fallback Character Encoding I have "Default for Current Locale" set. The $LANG is en_GB.UTF-8 but viewing the not-logged-in Monastery Gates the content encoding under View->Character Encoding is "Western", ie. Latin-1. But under "View Page Info" it is "windows-1252". Make of that what you will. Pale Moon looks interesting. It is indeed. I've been using it for the past 11 months and it is, in general, really very good - like how Firefox used to be before they canned all the useful stuff and broke most of the add-ons. I've not knowingly used mozrepl so can't comment on that. 🦛	[reply]
Re^5: PerlMonks main page: garbled character encoding (pale moon) by LanX (Saint) on Mar 22, 2021 at 16:04 UTC


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