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Re^6: To Extend, to Use, to Create (OT)

by syphilis (Archbishop)
on Dec 08, 2020 at 23:38 UTC ( [id://11124858]=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re^5: To Extend, to Use, to Create
in thread To Extend, to Use, to Create

Actual shaming isn't possible with secret voting, so...

That is not so - though I will concede that shaming would more effectively drive people away from this forum if voting was not secret.
Those 2 people would know who they are - and, if they read marto's post, they would be well aware that they were being told that they should feel shame for having voted the way that they did.
They would, of course, know that marto did not know the identity of the people he was belittling - but they would also be well aware of the fact that they were being nonetheless belittled.

I don't think people should be driven away simply because some of us don't like the way they hand out their votes.

Cheers,
Rob
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Re^7: To Extend, to Use, to Create (OT)
by marto (Cardinal) on Dec 09, 2020 at 00:30 UTC
    To belittle is to dismiss as unimportant, precisely the opposite of my complaint. I maintain that anyone up voting this toxic behaviour is both driving away (or worse) new and established users of this forum, as well as acting in bad faith in the established spirit of the community, which I believe to be important. Both of which behaviours IMHO (I in no way speak for the site) is shameful.
      I maintain that anyone up voting this toxic behaviour is both driving away (or worse) new and established users of this forum

      It's a bit of a stretch to assert that the 2 up voters were "up voting this toxic behaviour".
      All they did was to upvote an apparently benign (though opaque) post from an Anonymous Monk.

      The irony is that, IMHO, the reactions of you (and others) to the postings of this Anonymous Monk, provide far greater incentives for him to continue posting, than any number of up votes could ever provide. (This guy gets no satisfaction at all from upvotes - but he does love to see chatter and squawk and disharmony.)
      If you truly want him to go away, then you have to stop feeding him.

      Cheers,
      Rob

        Having been keeping an eye on this for some time the pattern is the same, a similar number of up votes on this garbage, preventing the automated reaping, making this a needlessly more involved process than needs be. I suspect it is the same people each time, since they can't have actually read the content upon which they are voting.

        Ignoring the posts (which has the potential consequence of the uninitiated/unaware of being negatively impacted), the user in questions self imposed exiles, none of these have proven successful over many years. Given the issue an inverse of the existing moderation system would make sense. Anonymous posts don't show at all until vetted.

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