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Re: Retitle tangents -9000

by marto (Cardinal)
on Jul 15, 2020 at 15:35 UTC ( [id://11119362]=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Retitle tangents
in thread Unparent tangents?

IIRC this behaviour (replacing a node title entirely, as opposed to appending something) upsets a subset of users who rely on a certain feed/view.

Update: s/reply/rely/

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Re^2: Retitle tangents -9000
by LanX (Saint) on Jul 15, 2020 at 16:09 UTC
    I keep adding extra info in brackets after the original title, similar to (updated)

    This helps keeping track in RAT view.

    Trouble is the title inheritance, I think (brainstorming) :

    • that the first retitle should carry both titles New Title (was: Old Title)
    • the numbering should continue back to the original root, hence Re^3: New Title (was: Old Title)
    • the old-title should be automatically stripped in further replies Re^4: New Title
    • comments like (updated) should be stripped too, it's total nonsense that this is inherited.
    • in case a sub-thread is promoted to a proper thread the original context and title should be preserved in the root-node (but not the numbering)
    I repeat these are theoretical thoughts, I'm sure we won't be able to implement it anyway.

    A clean implementation would require an extended data model.

    Otherwise this would rely on heuristics to be coded ... which would become ugly when renumbering.

    Cheers Rolf
    (addicted to the Perl Programming Language :)
    Wikisyntax for the Monastery

      I can't think of a sensible argument for doing any of this. Users can either just ignore things, make a note to return to the post later if desired (thus maintaining focus), or start a new thread (provided it actually meets the criteria for being posted on the site).

        There are 3 different use cases:

        Indicating ...

        • an (update)
          Reason: courtesy, fairness (b/c there is no history feature here)
        • a sub thread which is a specialization and not a thread drift like here Re^4: Ternary Quizical behaviour? (Ref vs Alias) ,
          Reason: sensible description in the title
        • a complete thread drift kind of Sundial-101 again (was: MongoDB) °
          Reason: Total drift, but new title spares us from considering/messaging the cabals

        > sensible argument for doing any of this

        Overall reason:

        • we keep re-linking valuable nodes and the title appears automatically, Ref vs Alias is a far better title
        • we have node overviews, like best nodes etc.
        • inheriting (update) makes no sense at all

        Cheers Rolf
        (addicted to the Perl Programming Language :)
        Wikisyntax for the Monastery

        °) there are less controversial examples, please don't crucify me for mentioning the should not be named

Re^2: Retitle tangents -9000
by haukex (Archbishop) on Jul 15, 2020 at 16:11 UTC
    IIRC this behaviour (replacing a node title entirely, as opposed to appending something) upsets a subset of users who rely on a certain feed/view.

    Ah, I didn't know that. I agree with LanX that it's possible to just append to the title.

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