Re^5: Why eval $version?

> I had wondered whether eval might also cater for version strings that contain multiple decimal points (v-strings),

The last part of dagolden's summary recommends to avoid dotted-integer versions

Given these criteria, my recommendation is to use decimal version numbers, put them in quotes, and add a string eval:

our $VERSION = "0.001"; $VERSION = eval $VERSION;

This is safe and effective and always works. By putting any $VERSION in quotes, even if it isn’t an alpha, you don’t have to remember to add them if you ever change to an alpha version. (And numbers with trailing zeroes are nicely formatted when parsed for distribution versions.)

If you really want to have a dotted-integer module version, then I strongly recommend that you limit your module to Perl 5.10 (or require version.pm and at least Perl 5.8.1) and that you never use an alpha version number. Always quote your dotted integer version when you define it and always use a leading-v to guide your users towards proper usage.

It’s unfortunate that version numbers are so complicated in Perl, but if you follow the recommendations in this article, your version numbers will be as boring as possible. And if you’ve read this all the way to the end, I hope I’ve convinced you that ‘boring’ version numbers are exactly what you want.

Cheers Rolf
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Re^6: Why eval $version? by syphilis (Archbishop) on Jul 09, 2020 at 14:03 UTC
our $VERSION = "0.001"; $VERSION = eval $VERSION; The thing I don't like about this is that (depending upon the original string), you might find that, after the eval is done, `"$VERSION" ne <original_string>` No such problem with "0.001", but consider this simple script: `use strict; use warnings; my $str = "2.30"; our $VERSION = $str; $VERSION = eval $VERSION; print "WTF\n" if $VERSION ne $str;` [download] That outputs "WTF". That is, having assigned the string "2.30" to $VERSION, the eval forces $VERSION into a state where it stringifies to something other than "2.30" - namely to "2.3". It's probably of little importance, but I found it annoying enough to immediately replace all occurrences of `eval $VERSION` in my .pm files with `#eval $VERSION` I've no regrets about having done that, yet. Notably, with the eval removed, we can then perform both numeric and string comparisons reliably: `use strict; use warnings; my $str = "2.30"; our $VERSION = $str; print "OK 1\n" if $VERSION == 2.3; print "OK 2\n" if $VERSION == $str; print "OK 3\n" if $VERSION eq $str; print $VERSION, " ", $str, "\n"; print "$VERSION $str\n"; __END_ outputs: OK 1 OK 2 OK 3 2.30 2.30 2.30 2.30` [download] I find that saner and preferable ... though I now always avoid using version strings that terminate with one or more zeros ... just in case ;-) Cheers, Rob	[reply] [d/l] [select]
Re^7: Why eval $version? by Haarg (Priest) on Jul 09, 2020 at 18:28 UTC
The generally recommended practice now is to use `$VERSION =~ tr/_//d;` rather than `$VERSION = eval $VERSION`. This removes the underscores, but leaves trailing zeros intact. This also only applies if you are using numeric versions (rather than three part versions like v1.2.3) and are using underscores to denote developer releases. Using -TRIAL releases is another option that many prefer rather than using underscores.	[reply] [d/l] [select]
Re^8: Why eval $version? by syphilis (Archbishop) on Jul 10, 2020 at 00:42 UTC
The generally recommended practice now is to use `$VERSION =~ tr/_//d;` A much better idea, IMO. And, if I ever release another devel version of a module, that's what I'll use. Cheers, Rob PS I haven't been releasing devel versions for a while now. Apparently, not all smokers test devel releases, and it was not uncommon for me to have the devel version pass everywhere, only to fail on some other smoker as soon as it became a stable release. I couldn't see the point in that. Instead, I choose to do broad based testing locally and then do a stable release.	[reply] [d/l]
Re^7: Why eval $version? by LanX (Saint) on Jul 09, 2020 at 15:42 UTC
Hi 2 things make-maker and other tools are statically parsing perl files for `$VERSION = "numberwang"` so your example with $str won't work. the comparison is supposed to be numeric, it's no surprise that string comparison will often fail on numbers! Just try `sort 8..12` to see what I mean. ° I'm afraid make-maker is keeping us stuck with $VERSION syntax for backwards compatibility. see also davido's research: Re: Why eval $version? But I could imagine a module `Version::Smart` exporting a tied object in $VERSION which DWIM. Though I'm wary of XKCD's standards ... Cheers Rolf _{(addicted to the Perl Programming Language :) Wikisyntax for the Monastery} Update °) yes I know, since it's quoted it looks like a string	[reply] [d/l] [select]
Re^8: Why eval $version? by syphilis (Archbishop) on Jul 10, 2020 at 00:27 UTC
it's no surprise that string comparison will often fail on numbers! Just try sort 8..12 to see what I mean Yes - and that's the reason we compare them in numeric context. It's just that if I assign a version as "2.30" I like it to print as "2.30", not "2.3". Otherwise I would have saved myself the keystroke and assigned "2.3". And to check on that, I generally run a test that `$VERSION eq "2.30"` - which of course fails if I eval $VERSION. As I said, it's not a big deal. It annoys me that the string I assigned is being changed ... so I simply avoid the procedure. Cheers, Rob	[reply] [d/l]
Re^9: Why eval $version? by LanX (Saint) on Jul 10, 2020 at 01:10 UTC
Re^10: Why eval $version? by syphilis (Archbishop) on Jul 10, 2020 at 02:36 UTC


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