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Re^16: Making Perl Monks a better place for newbies (and others)

by PerlGuy(Tom) (Acolyte)
on Feb 05, 2020 at 20:09 UTC ( [id://11112450]=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re^15: Making Perl Monks a better place for newbies (and others)
in thread Making Perl Monks a better place for newbies (and others)

"If you disbelieve me, view source on my reply, which shows the newlines still exist in the raw HTML."

I've been posting from a tablet or phone, most days, which don't have "view source", but, on my computer now, I see, you are absolutely right!

I certainly understand html ignores "return" or newline and other white space, I just never in a million years would have suspected that PerlMonks lets that pass through. I've never before encountered any forum software that did not do SOMETHING with the newline, either strip, or replace.

But I would think that would make fixing the problem that much easier.

Or not much more, if any more, difficult.

Tom

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Re^17: Making Perl Monks a better place for newbies (and others)
by jdporter (Paladin) on Feb 05, 2020 at 21:45 UTC
    I just never in a million years would have suspected that PurlMonks lets that pass through. I've never before encountered any forum software that did not do SOMETHING with the newline, either strip, or replace.

    You know, for someone who's been a member here for over ten years, it sure seems like you've never read Markup in the Monastery or Writeup Formatting Tips.

      links for both displayed literally every time a user posts or replies...

      A reply falls below the community's threshold of quality. You may see it by logging in.
      > member here for over ten years,

      On a side note: do we monitor big amounts of failed login attempts?

      Like someone trying to take over an old account which hasn't been posting for ten years?

      Cheers Rolf
      (addicted to the Perl Programming Language :)
      Wikisyntax for the Monastery FootballPerl is like chess, only without the dice

Re^17: Making Perl Monks a better place for newbies (and others)
by jdporter (Paladin) on Feb 05, 2020 at 21:35 UTC
    fixing the problem

    It's not a problem; it just means you have to write your posts in html.

      " ...it just means you have to write your posts in html."

      That's exactly the point. I'm often on the go and post to forums from an Android device, (tablet or phone) which are anything but html/code friendly. This is not a problem on any other forum, anywhere else on the internet. As someone stated years ago, in this or another thread on the subject. New users, even Perl programmers, may not be versed in HTML.

      It can be argued that they should be. But even so, who really prefers to type seven or eight characters of html for every paragraph break regardless of how versed they may be in html?

      Angle brackets and forward slash are not on a typical mobile device keyboard. That is, in part, an issue with Android I suppose, but should PerlMonks require new users to download a special keyboard app for their phones just to post here?

      The thread is about how to make the place easier to use for newbies(and others). Requiring that everyone use HTML does not seem very newbie friendly.

      Tom
        Angle brackets and forward slash are not on a typical mobile device keyboard. That is, in part, an issue with Android I suppose

        You suppose incorrectly. These symbols are easily accessible from my Android keyboard.

        I'm often on the go and post to forums from an Android device, (tablet or phone) which are anything but html/code friendly.

        Just because some corporations make ridiculous devices with terrible interfaces that are abused by their addicted users does not mean these people should be accomodated.

        Why do you expect to efficiently access networks that traditionally require sophisticated input devices with a mere telephone designed to send silly SMS messages, or half a computer controlled by fingerpainting?

        Keep perlmonks hard to use for those who can't follow simple instructions on performing tedious and repetitive tasks to format and output text because they might not be too interested in the actual programming of computers after all.

        should PerlMonks require new users to download a special keyboard app for their phones just to post here?

        Have them scan a qrcode to enable automatic formatting after performing an awkward gesture while kneeling is detected by the altimeter and their camera tracked eyes are closed...

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