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Re: Converting to number doesn't always work... (updated)

by haukex (Archbishop)
on Nov 22, 2019 at 06:52 UTC ( [id://11109047]=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Converting to number doesn't always work...

So, if I ask to convert "55a" then it returns "55" which is fine. But if I try to convert "a55" then it returns 0, which baffles me! It should return 55. Why does this happen?

This is simply how Perl's string-to-number conversion works, it only takes the first portion of the string that looks like a number (although interestingly, I'm having trouble finding a reference in the Perl documentation at the moment*). The tr/0-9//cd solution is one way to work around that, if you are ok with strings such as "a1b2c3.4d" being converted to 1234.

local $SIG{__WARN__}

Instead of trying to trap the warning, it's better to use looks_like_number from Scalar::Util, as this gives you the exact internal function that Perl uses to check strings and generate that warning in the first place. (Update 2: We've been over this before.)

* Update: The Camel says "To convert from string to number, Perl internally uses something like the C library’s atof(3) function.", and atof(3) says "The atof() function converts the initial portion of the string" (emphasis mine).

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Re^2: Converting to number doesn't always work... (updated)
by syphilis (Archbishop) on Nov 22, 2019 at 08:41 UTC
    Instead of trying to trap the warning, it's better to use looks_like_number from Scalar::Util, as this gives you the exact internal function that Perl uses to check strings and generate that warning in the first place

    Seems that perl doesn't always issue a warning when a variable that doesn't look like a number is used in numeric context:
    C:\>perl -MScalar::Util="looks_like_number" -wle "$r = ''; $x = \$r; p +rint 'lln' if looks_like_number($x); $x += 1" C:\>perl -MScalar::Util="looks_like_number" -wle "$x = 'hello'; print +'lln' if looks_like_number($x); $x += 1" Argument "hello" isn't numeric in addition (+) at -e line 1. C:\>
    For both of those one liners, Scalar::Util::looks_like_number($x) returns a false value, but it's only the second one liner that warns when $x is used in numeric context.

    Cheers,
    Rob
      $x = \$r;

      I am confused why you're taking this step? This means that $x is a reference, and a reference is like a dual-valued variable*: As a string, it's "SCALAR(0xabc)", which I would guess is what looks_like_number is looking at˛, and in numeric context, it's the memory address, which is why $x += 1 doesn't warn.

      * Update: Triple-valued? It's a reference, string, and number ;-) (Or rather: It's a reference, that gets converted to different values depending on context.)

      ˛ Update 2: Hmmm, nope, looks like it's checking the flags in this case.

        I am confused why you're taking this step?

        Nothing insidious or profound.
        I read "this gives you the exact internal function that Perl uses to check strings and generate that warning in the first place" as implying both that:

        1) if looks_like_number($x) returns true, then there will be no warning given when $x is used in numeric context;
        &&
        2) if looks_like_number($x) returns false, then a "non-numeric" warning will be given when $x is used in numeric context.

        I find it interesting that the latter of the two is not necessarily true - furthermore, I found it so interesting that I decided to provide an example where looks_like_number($x) returns false, yet no warning is issued when $x is used in numeric context.

        Your second update references the use of looks_like_number() in sv.c.
        Note that Scalar::Util::looks_like_number() is a different function. (That is, it doesn't simply wrap the perl API function of the same name ... it does some other stuff as well.)

        Cheers,
        Rob
Re^2: Converting to number doesn't always work... (updated)
by Anonymous Monk on Nov 22, 2019 at 10:10 UTC

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