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Re^13: Ovid's take on the renaming of "Perl6" (updated)

by chromatic (Archbishop)
on Sep 02, 2019 at 21:41 UTC ( [id://11105478]=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re^12: Ovid's take on the renaming of "Perl6" (updated)
in thread Ovid's take on the renaming of "Perl6"

Jonathan shows stuff in this video

Not an order of magnitude performance improvement.

you were one of the promise makers and I believed them.

When the facts change, I try to change my mind.

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Re^14: Ovid's take on the renaming of "Perl6"
by LanX (Saint) on Sep 02, 2019 at 22:34 UTC
    And who tells me that you'll not need to change your mind again in 2020?

    YOU convinced me back then with the argument that Perl 5's inner workings have become unmaintainable and Perl 6 will be much easier to work with.

    Cheers Rolf
    (addicted to the Perl Programming Language :)
    Wikisyntax for the Monastery FootballPerl is like chess, only without the dice

      And who tells me that you'll not need to change your mind again in 2020?

      If there's a reliable, repeatable benchmark showing Rakudo can sustainably outperform Perl in the large, I'll change my mind. "Slower than Ruby parsing log files" suggests that's unlikely to happen.

      YOU convinced me back then with the argument that Perl 5's inner workings have become unmaintainable and Perl 6 will be much easier to work with.

      XS is still a hazard, but I didn't count on Perl adopting a yearly release cycle.

        It hasn't been quite 4 years, but I have seen scant evidence these mythical, long-promised "significant further performance improvements every month for years to come" have materialized.

        Then again, we're maybe only two years into the "4 to 9 years for optimizations" period.

        On the gripping hand, MoarVM is now older than Parrot was when the Raku developers decided it was time to rewrite everything from scratch, so maybe it's time for them to start over again?

        As I wrote years ago, I'm open to revising my opinion and estimation of Raku's current and potential future performance, given evidence, but I'm also going to hold previous predictions up to scrutiny.

        > "Slower than Ruby parsing log files" suggests that's unlikely to happen.

        So you watched the video?

        Cheers Rolf
        (addicted to the Perl Programming Language :)
        Wikisyntax for the Monastery FootballPerl is like chess, only without the dice

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