Re^5: The future of Perl?

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Might not be what he meant, but I'm reminded of Alan Kay's statement:

... and actually I made up the term "Object Oriented", and I can tell you I did not have C++ in mind.

Source: The computer revolution hasn't happened yet

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Re^6: The future of Perl? by BrowserUk (Patriarch) on Nov 13, 2014 at 15:03 UTC
Man, what an uncomfortable speaker to watch. Whilst C++ and Java (and other data+procedure languages) aren't what he meant when he coined the term 'object-oriented', they are what the world+dog has decided (and been educated) to understand that term to mean. His notion of black boxes containing: data; plus code that knows how to interpret that data; plus metadata that can be queried at runtime to discover what the black box contains and how it can be manipulated (introspection); is quite a different animal to what most people and computer scientists think of when faced with that term. It brings to mind the Moose/MOP thing; but actually, probably much to his chagrin going by his subtext in the video, the systems that most closely fit his vision are Microsoft's COM and .NET. With the rise and rise of 'Social' network sites: 'Computers are making people easier to use everyday' Examine what is said, not who speaks -- Silence betokens consent -- Love the truth but pardon error. "Science is about questioning the status quo. Questioning authority". In the absence of evidence, opinion is indistinguishable from prejudice.	[reply]

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Re^6: The future of Perl?
by BrowserUk (Patriarch) on Nov 13, 2014 at 15:03 UTC

Man, what an uncomfortable speaker to watch.

Whilst C++ and Java (and other data+procedure languages) aren't what he meant when he coined the term 'object-oriented', they are what the world+dog has decided (and been educated) to understand that term to mean.

His notion of black boxes containing: data; plus code that knows how to interpret that data; plus metadata that can be queried at runtime to discover what the black box contains and how it can be manipulated (introspection); is quite a different animal to what most people and computer scientists think of when faced with that term.

It brings to mind the Moose/MOP thing; but actually, probably much to his chagrin going by his subtext in the video, the systems that most closely fit his vision are Microsoft's COM and .NET.

With the rise and rise of 'Social' network sites: 'Computers are making people easier to use everyday'

Examine what is said, not who speaks -- Silence betokens consent -- Love the truth but pardon error.

"Science is about questioning the status quo. Questioning authority".

In the absence of evidence, opinion is indistinguishable from prejudice.

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