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Re^2: The future of Perl?

by BrowserUk (Pope)
on Nov 09, 2014 at 03:24 UTC ( #1106599=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re: The future of Perl?
in thread The future of Perl?

When I asked my friend about Moose/Mouse/Moo etc., he said: "If people want object orientation, they use Java or C++; that isn't what they want Perl for.", and I agree.


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Re^3: The future of Perl?
by boftx (Deacon) on Nov 09, 2014 at 03:36 UTC

    Then we should agree to disagree.

    You must always remember that the primary goal is to drain the swamp even when you are hip-deep in alligators.
Re^3: The future of Perl?
by Arunbear (Prior) on Nov 10, 2014 at 11:26 UTC
    What's the reasoning behind that point of view?

      Our collective experience. That is what both my friend, who runs a small software house, and I have seen over the last 12 years.

      Companies/gov.depts. that want their software developed using OOD/OOP, are looking for 'software engineering'. They want compiled code and type safety, and defined standards, and ISO9000 and buzzwords compliance and all that good stuff. They ain't Perl. Java or C++, or C#, maybe a few OCaml. The 'safe' choices.

      Companies that (at least a few years ago) would accept Perl solutions want them to work -- usually yesterday -- and were much less fussed about the style of programming used provided it was simple, clear and maintainable. That's not OO.


      With the rise and rise of 'Social' network sites: 'Computers are making people easier to use everyday'
      Examine what is said, not who speaks -- Silence betokens consent -- Love the truth but pardon error.
      "Science is about questioning the status quo. Questioning authority".
      In the absence of evidence, opinion is indistinguishable from prejudice.
        Regarding companies that do accept Perl solutions, I looked at some job listings, and out of the 40 currently listed, 23 included the terms "OO", "Moose" or "Catalyst". I've been keeping an occasional eye on that page since 2005 and haven't noticed much change in the demand for OO Perl skills.

        Certainly in every Perl job I interviewed for, they were looking for people with skills to maintain their OO Perl codebases.

Re^3: The future of Perl?
by Jenda (Abbot) on Nov 11, 2014 at 14:24 UTC

    If they want object orientation they should not be using Java or C++. I'm inclined to say they should not be using C++ unless they have a huge codebase already in any case.

    Jenda
    Enoch was right!
    Enjoy the last years of Rome.

      If they want object orientation they should not be using Java or C++.

      You'll have to explain that?


      With the rise and rise of 'Social' network sites: 'Computers are making people easier to use everyday'
      Examine what is said, not who speaks -- Silence betokens consent -- Love the truth but pardon error.
      "Science is about questioning the status quo. Questioning authority".
      In the absence of evidence, opinion is indistinguishable from prejudice.

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