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Re: The future of Perl?

by Anonymous Monk
on Nov 06, 2014 at 07:10 UTC ( #1106322=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to The future of Perl?

By the way found this today: http://fosdem.org/2015/schedule/event/get_ready_to_party/

Now that Perl 6 is going to see a production release in 2015, which is a barely 2 months away. We can be fairly confident that within an year a lot of current day troubles will be gone!

Like the link says, Time to party!

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Re^2: The future of Perl?
by BrowserUk (Pope) on Nov 06, 2014 at 20:36 UTC
    Time to party!

    Like it's 1999?

    I'm not a fan of 'pre-announcements'; teasers and the like. Hell! Even the fanbois are getting bored with those.

    Even what little supporting description there is, is divisive: "outlasted the naysayers".

    The majority of those categorised and denigrated as naysayers; were previously enthusiasts and even contributors, worn down and turned off by the endless premature hyperbole; constant bickering; repeated reboots; never-ending next Christmases. Not to mention that "even its designers said it was impossible."

    Will I read/watch the event? Sure. Will I watch it live? Depends if there are any reruns showing of "Star Trek Into Darkness" or "Matrix Revolutions" showing on catchup that day.

    But I will watch/read it. Eventually. But my expectations will be very low.


    With the rise and rise of 'Social' network sites: 'Computers are making people easier to use everyday'
    Examine what is said, not who speaks -- Silence betokens consent -- Love the truth but pardon error.
    "Science is about questioning the status quo. Questioning authority".
    In the absence of evidence, opinion is indistinguishable from prejudice.
      I may be wrong, but I have the feeling that we are getting really near this time to have a real Perl 6, possibly not yet really full-fledged, but pretty close, the performance improvement has been quite massive over the last year, Perl 6 seems to be able to use existing Perl 5 modules (including XS or Inline C modules, it seems).

      It seems to me that that Perl 6 development is really getting into another dimension this time. What I have used so far in my Perl 6 experiments was still not entirely satisfactory, but there has been a very clear improvement. I haven't made any detailed study, but it seems to me that programs are running at almost satisfactory speed (compared to Perl 5), just compiling is still quite slow. If my impression is right, I would not care too much, a few seconds lost on compilation time don't matter for me when I work on GB-long files.

Re^2: The future of Perl?
by Jenda (Abbot) on Nov 06, 2014 at 09:49 UTC

    What? Perl6 released next year? When was this first announced? 2006?

    Isn't this the reason of Perl decline? People read an announcement like this, hold their breath ... and turn blue and eventually start to smell.

    Jenda
    The knight that says nay.

      So this is from the link

      But mostly how a bunch of stubbornly fun-loving people outlasted the naysayers to accomplish the extraordinary task of implementing a language that was so ambitious, even its designers said it was impossible.

      How can anybody even afford to miss a deadline after writing something like this? After all they have to prove a point to 'the naysayers'. So I guess we should all take this well that this time its for real!

      Prepare to be delightfully surprised.

      Actually at this point, any thing with Perl 6 would hardly surprise me(us?)

      Speakers: Larry Wall

      All the more reason to take this seriously

Re^2: The future of Perl?
by Anonymous Monk on Nov 06, 2014 at 08:02 UTC
    That's a lot of Apocalypti to write in two months.

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