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Re: The future of Perl?

by eyepopslikeamosquito (Bishop)
on Nov 04, 2014 at 05:54 UTC ( #1105973=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to The future of Perl?

Well, in the very long term, no programming language has a future.

In the next ten to twenty years, I expect Perl 5 to continue to be widely used; there is just too much mission critical software already written in it for it to disappear overnight. Because of this, maintaining backward compatibility, as Perl 5 has largely done, is vital, IMHO. In contrast, I felt that Python 3/Ruby 1.9 broke backward compatibility without a good enough reason. Based on random anecdotes from workmates, having Moose in the Perl core should help continue the Perl 5 renaissance.

Out of curiosity, I compared Perl's TIOBE index from three years ago:

Dec Dec Delta 2011 2010 Language Rating Dec 2010 1 1 Java 17.561% -0.44% 2 2 C 17.057% +0.98% 3 3 C++ 8.252% -0.76% 4 5 C# 8.205% +1.52% 5 8 Objective-C 6.805% +3.56% 6 4 PHP 6.001% -1.51% 7 7 (Visual) Basic 4.757% -0.36% 8 6 Python 3.492% -2.99% 9 9 Perl 2.472% +0.14% 10 12 JavaScript 2.199% +0.69% 11 11 Ruby 1.494% -0.29%
with today:
Oct Oct Delta 2014 2013 Language Rating Oct 2013 1 1 C 17.655% +0.41% 2 2 Java 13.506% -2.60% 3 3 Objective-C 10.096% +1.10% 4 4 C++ 4.868% -3.80% 5 6 C# 4.748% -0.97% 6 7 Basic 3.507% -1.31% 7 5 PHP 2.942% -3.15% 8 8 Python 2.333% -0.77% 9 12 Perl 2.116% +0.51% 12 10 JavaScript 1.771% -0.27% 16 13 Ruby 1.128% -0.12% 17 81 Dart 1.119% +1.03%
As a dynamic language nut, I was saddened to see that Perl, Python and Ruby have all slipped in the past three years. Somewhat to my surprise, Perl seems to be outperforming Python and Ruby, at least on TIOBE.

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Re^2: The future of Perl?
by tobyink (Canon) on Nov 04, 2014 at 12:45 UTC
Re^2: The future of Perl?
by MonkOfAnotherSect (Sexton) on Nov 07, 2014 at 02:23 UTC
    To be fair, TIOBE is an awful way of determining actual usage. It's "methodology" is to search for +"<language> programming". Is Transact-SQL really used by nearly as many people (as of the latest index) as Perl or Python?

    Here's some oddities (from Google currently, at least):

  • +"c programming" +"objective-c"
  • +"basic programming" +"perl"
  • +"c coding" vs +"python coding" vs +"perl coding"
  • +"java coder" vs +"ruby coder"
  • +"java programmer" vs +"c programmer" vs +"python programmer" vs +"perl programmer" vs +"objective-c programmer"
  • +"transact-sql programming" +"2014" vs +"transact-sql programming" vs +"perl programming" +"2014" vs +"perl programming" vs +"cobol programming" +"2014" vs "cobol programming"

    ...and the madness of +"basic programming" +"perl" +"2014" vs +"basic programming" +"perl" vs +"basic programming" +"2014"

    -T.

Re^2: The future of Perl?
by GotToBTru (Prior) on Nov 04, 2014 at 23:01 UTC

    The funniest joke in the above is the ascendance of C, a language around since 1970. It was considered "old" when I was in college (1980). I've never written C professionally, except for a simple demo program I did for a job interview. I should look; I don't recall seeing many C programming jobs advertised.

    1 Peter 4:10
Re^2: The future of Perl?
by choroba (Archbishop) on Nov 04, 2014 at 08:25 UTC
    Perl seems to be outperforming Python
    I don't see that in either table you posted.
    لսႽ† ᥲᥒ⚪⟊Ⴙᘓᖇ Ꮅᘓᖇ⎱ Ⴙᥲ𝇋ƙᘓᖇ

      From Dec 2010 to Oct 2014, Python fell massively, from 6.482 down to 2.333. In contrast, Perl went from 2.332 to 2.116. That is, Perl "outperformed" Python over the past four years by falling only 10%, rather than 178%. Now, if that rate of change continues...

      Having said that, I was saddened that all four of my favorite languages (Perl, Python, Ruby, C++) fell during the past four years (I was not saddened that PHP suffered an even bigger fall than Python :). Most of the popular languages fell, with only C and Objective-C improving.

Re^2: The future of Perl?
by Laurent_R (Canon) on Nov 08, 2014 at 23:31 UTC
    Although I am not really convinced about the TIOBE index measure, and have never been, I am quite happy that Perl made it back to the top ten in 2014, where it was not last year. This does not sound as a dead language, does it?
Re^2: The future of Perl?
by Anonymous Monk on Nov 05, 2014 at 04:33 UTC

    Well, in the very long term, no programming language has a future.

    That is just a philosophical argument, on the very long term nothing has a future, not even the universe. When people talk of a future is always the next immediate few years.

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