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Re: Call for Action: YouTube Perl stuff

by educated_foo (Vicar)
on Apr 14, 2013 at 14:08 UTC ( #1028625=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Call for Action: YouTube Perl stuff

mommy Marissa Meyer
Was she a mean mommy? This seems a bit catty.

I forget where I read it, but the best reaction I've seen to TIOBE is to game its simple rules with a ridiculous language and completely discredit it. It's a waste of time, and the sooner programmers of all languages no longer have to waste this time, the better. So if you want to help Perl, consider including the string "Befunge programming" in all sorts of places ;-).

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Re^2: Call for Action: YouTube Perl stuff
by Propaganda.pm_rj (Acolyte) on Apr 14, 2013 at 14:20 UTC

    This so called "best reaction" is wrong. The sooner the Perl community stops that self-delusion the better.

    As for discrediting TIOBE: Good. I'm all for it. Let's bring Perl to the 1st position, and then make public, that we give a sh*t about TIOBE. Chances being heard *then* are way better than squeaking from the lower ranks. So before you start with some imaginary language, try to start with Perl.

    Because when you really try, you will see how hard it is and whether you are even able to persist. And as a nice side effect - when you try - you will learn many things not encountered before. Browsing the Perl videos on YouTube, was very enlightening for me.

    propaganda.pm - Not just another Perl Mongers Group.
      This so called "best reaction" is wrong. The sooner the Perl community stops that self-delusion the better.

      You can engage with kookery on its own level, but isn't there an opportunity cost to doing so? I know everyone's free time isn't completely fungible, but for me every hour I spent addressing kookery is an hour I could have spent writing or writing about Perl.

            You can engage with kookery on its own level,

        Reminds me of an old saying:

        "Do not bother trying to teach a pig to sing, you'll just annoy the pig and waste your time."


        Peter L. Berghold -- Unix Professional
        Peter -at- Berghold -dot- Net; AOL IM redcowdawg Yahoo IM: blue_cowdawg

      To show you how much against beating dogs I am, Iíll beat my dog. There, now Iíve done it and Iím more against it than ever. See how credible Iíve become!

      On the other hand, the fact that engaging with some of the greater Perl community was enlightening for you is no surprise. Itís only a doomed echo chamber from the POV of those who never venture out.

        If "beating a dog" has found a place in the category "achievements" in your mindset, you really should consult professional help, dear anonymous monk.

        If I take part in a contest and make it 10th place, my babbling about this being a stupid contest will basically make me look like an idiot or a whining child making "the bad world" responsible for its own failure. If I make it 1st place, then my statement this being a stupid contest has far more weight.

        Actually I do not think that TIOBE is completely wrong. But if someone wants to discredit it, please do so with "Perl programming" and not with "Ijustmadethatup programming". In fact, I do think there is a high correlation between it and the true popularity of a language. It certainly is not 1 but definitely more than .5

        Currently, people in the Perl community ranting about e.g. TIOBE (and of course other indicators) really look more like the aforementioned 10th place people...

        propaganda.pm - Not just another Perl Mongers Group.
      One step at a time...
      Just another Perler interested in Algol Programming.

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