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in reply to Re^15: Hash order randomization is coming, are you ready?
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I have much respect for you and p5p, I mean no disrespect with my comments, I'm grateful for perl, but please listen to the stinkers now while its early :) sometimes they have points, even if they don't understand the topic thoroughly

:) I came up with those links (after I noticed my earlier "What?" got --), and its lacking a lot of details -- I guess I just don't get it. I'm not quite ready to call it garbage like BrowserUk , but I'm certainly thinking about it :) new smells aren't pleasant

I'm thinking this change is one of those things I think should be delayed for at least another 5 years until warnings can warn you about it, and the docs contain something more demonstrative , and aren't set to permanent limbo mode (forgive my lack of precision in my wording)

"Don't depend on this" is beginning to chafe, grate even :) why not a hash pragma so it DWIMs (whatever that would be)?

Also, when claims are made about performance in the docs, link to it, for example Switch perl's hash function to MurmurHash-32 (v3) and hash randomization by default. « perl5-porters « ActiveState List Archives

I thought we had "per process hash randomization" from 5.8.1, and nothing I linked earlier describes something new/different -- this thread makes it sound its more random than that -- yup, I don't get it, docs aren't clear

Reading that PERL_HASH_SEED now takes a hex value instead? Code parsing this output, should it exist, must change to accomodate the new format. ? Change for the sake of change?

Yup, I hate that variable now :) ${magic variables}-- I think I'm onto something with the hash pragma idea and delaying introduction -- improve the docs/interface while its new and you know what its all about

I have much respect for you and p5p, I mean no disrespect with my comments, I'm grateful for perl, but please listen to the stinkers now while its early :) sometimes they have points, even if they don't understand the topic thoroughly