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[jdporter] kindly messaged me with still more vital historical information
missing from my original post.
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Though correctly identifying Ryan "dembones" Postma as one of the early Everything developers,
I somehow totally missed that he was also the ninth Perl Monk!
He seems to be quite mysterious, at least I couldn't find any specific contribution made to Perl Monks by [dem bones]
(2021 update: [id://11139281] adds to the mystery).
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<P><B>No 8a: [dem bones]</B></P>
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<I>Node id: 1329; user since: Dec 23 1999 at 21:49 UTC; last here: Dec 12 2000; Experience: none; 0 posts.</I>
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Other Hope/Calvin College students from the early days who registered at Perl Monks
include [krikke] (Josh Krikke) and [Robo] (Rob Oostendorp).
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Gratifyingly, [jdporter] confirmed the correctness of my guesses about:
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<li> Jonathan Pater
<li> Darrick Brown
<li> Patrick Schoonveld
<li> Bryan D Thomas
</ul>
Heartbreakingly however, [sgtbaker] is apparently not a real person, but just one of [vroom]'s many test accounts.
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The revered [paco], of course, is no test account.
He's a real person all right, and, tantalizingly, [jdporter] revealed that
he had some sort of mysterious, perhaps supernatural, association with the early BSI developers.
The [paco] mystery deepens!
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<B>Update March 2021</B>: [jdporter] noticed a mystery user [trigger], the earliest user with no valid email on file
(that is, his email field has no '@' in it).
The mysterious [trigger] wrote just four nodes (consecutive node ids: 10895-10898), all made on May 10 2000,
before disappearing the very next day.
<ul>
<li> [id://10895] and [id://10896] and [id://10897] - these first three nodes appear to be essentially identical! I found these quotes interesting: <I>"i dont know anything about mysql though, even though my service does have it"</I> and <I>"before i really get the site up i figured i should learn perl enough to satisfy me and stuff, it won't be up for a while"</I>. Was [trigger] an expert in provisioning web sites ... but lacking mysql and Perl chops?
<li> [id://10898] - This quote <I>"the answer is yes to everything (for the hosting service i will be choosing)"</I> suggests he was answering a question (which appears to be lost?). Perhaps asking him about possible PM site improvements?
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Unlike the legend [BBQ] (a pioneer user from Dec 24 1999 last seen Apr 07 2009), [trigger] did not join PM until May 10 2000
and only visited us for one day, last seen May 11 2000.
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Was the mysterious [trigger] a consultant from an external organisation, helping the Hope College kids improve the early Perl Monks web site?
No! It seems [BBQ] managed to salvage [trigger]'s original question in [id://10890] as:
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hi, i'm very new to perl, very... how can I make a simple news system for a static page with a comment section? where you log in as an admin and are confronted with news submissions form? i dont know much at all so...explain very thoroughly please...i dont know much at all with perl
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using server side and stuff, so the news will look good too, not just slopped together, kind of like slashcode, but minus everything else and simpler than the slashcode news and comment system, please. i'm very new and would like to learn a lot more, slashcode was of no help to me, and i want to do something much simpler although easy, i know this is a large request, but please help
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Disappointingly, it seems the mysterious [trigger] was just a random early PM newbie asking a question about how to create a simple news system ...
who somehow managed to mangle the early PM node integrity (presumably due to a PM bug) ... which resourceful legend [BBQ]
worked around by pasting [trigger]'s original question into [id://10890|his reply].
Sadly, [trigger] was more PM vandal than PM legend ... I wonder what he is up to today?
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