Re^4: Proposed US ban on school/library access to 'social networking sites'

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Comparing assaults from social networking sites with assualts in local malls seems to ignore the fact that school libraries are not public spaces.

This is an illusion. Item: are you going to police cell phone calls on school grounds? Item: are children visiting social networking susceptible to offenders that couldn’t otherwise reach them?

Banning social networking sites at schools is dumb. The problem, as much as there is one, arises from the fact that the internet enables people to get in touch more easily with more people than ever before. Social networking sites aren’t the only instantiation of this principle and schools are not the only conductor for it. I mean, just think about it. Do you seriously think there is a significant group of children that will be protected from predators if this bill passes?

This bill is pure kneejerkery by people who heard half a story, understood even less of it, and now feel they have to do something. Think of children! Won’t somebody think of the children!

Are kids at school to learn, or to play?

Oh please. As programmers we complain that pointy-haired bosses think we’re not working when we’re not hunched over the keyboard and tapping away. How is the sort of thinking you’re displaying here any better?

I don’t know about yours, but the library at my school carried a lot of novels of all stripes, and no, they largely weren’t educational. Pupils who weren’t underage were also allowed to leave school grounds at any time. I don’t think these things were responsible in any way for any of the problems I had, and their absence would certainly not have improved anything.

The solution is to discipline lazy and misbehaving kids – not restrict all of them from things that are generally innocuous. Yeah, I know: that requires attention and action from teachers and parents. How inconvenient.

I must admit that governmental oversight is necessary in some cases.

When parents are evidently failing to fulfill their duties, then in the name of their childrens’ safety and in the interest of society that is justified. But here we’re talking about a blanket default decision that applies to all parents alike, diligent, disregardful, or otherwise.

Makeshifts last the longest.

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Re^5: Proposed US ban on school/library access to 'social networking sites' by ptum (Priest) on Aug 01, 2006 at 16:11 UTC
It may be 'kneejerkery' and it may not be very effective, but I can't see that it does a lot of harm. Just because this law is not a panacea for all society's ills doesn't mean it might not help (or pave the way for a solution that really does help). Oh please. As programmers we complain that pointy-haired bosses think we’re not working when we’re not hunched over the keyboard and tapping away. How is the sort of thinking you’re displaying here any better? Heh. Does that make me a PHP (Pointy-Haired Parent)? This thread is controversial enough without bringing PHP into it. Might as well start talking about gun laws and XP-whoring ... :) I still don't think it is unreasonable to limit distractions from education while kids are at school, especially distractions that might pose a threat to their safety. Many schools ban cell phones and impose all kinds of other restrictions on kids' freedoms while at school ... just as my employer imposes restrictions on what I can do and say while at work. For the most part, that seems reasonable. No good deed goes unpunished. -- (attributed to) Oscar Wilde	[reply]

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Re^5: Proposed US ban on school/library access to 'social networking sites'
by ptum (Priest) on Aug 01, 2006 at 16:11 UTC

It may be 'kneejerkery' and it may not be very effective, but I can't see that it does a lot of harm. Just because this law is not a panacea for all society's ills doesn't mean it might not help (or pave the way for a solution that really does help).

Oh please. As programmers we complain that pointy-haired bosses think we’re not working when we’re not hunched over the keyboard and tapping away. How is the sort of thinking you’re displaying here any better?

Heh. Does that make me a PHP (Pointy-Haired Parent)? This thread is controversial enough without bringing PHP into it. Might as well start talking about gun laws and XP-whoring ... :)

I still don't think it is unreasonable to limit distractions from education while kids are at school, especially distractions that might pose a threat to their safety. Many schools ban cell phones and impose all kinds of other restrictions on kids' freedoms while at school ... just as my employer imposes restrictions on what I can do and say while at work. For the most part, that seems reasonable.

No good deed goes unpunished. -- (attributed to) Oscar Wilde

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