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in reply to The true PerlMonks Experience

I was a little surprised this morning when I entered the Gates, no not Bill, and saw this post.

Yesterday I was thinking about the voting system and the possibel pros of --. I came up with none, -- is just anonymous flaming.

My conclusion was that the radiobuttons ought to be changed to a single checkbox labeled AMEN, ie promoting good stuff, ignoring bad stuff.

Works when rearing dogs anyway ;-]

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Re: Re: The true PerlMonks Experience
by sifukurt (Hermit) on Nov 06, 2001 at 20:01 UTC
    Very well put. Or, as demonstrated in an earlier response to this post, an "Amen" would probably be more apropriate. And I think the dog training analogy is appropriate here as well. All of us are, after all, attempting to train ourselves to be better perl programmers, simply by virtue of coming to this site. (Side note: maybe, to avoid the potential religious connotations of "Amen," which will invariably offend someone, maybe the button should read "Indeed," "Couldn't Agree More," "Darn Tootin'," or, my personal favorite, "Boy Howdy.") I know on one particular post of mine, I got -- by someone because they thought I was using a particular module incorrectly, when in fact, I wasn't. Silly, isn't it? Actually being downvoted because the person wasn't familiar with how I was using the module in question. But as with anything that involves a complex system (and the Perl community is nothing if not a complex system), there are always going to be weird exceptions and anomalies; weird things becoming strangely popular while seemingly very good things are brushed aside. You see it in movies, books, and music all the time. Quick example of what I mean. Several years ago, the movie "Dumb and Dumber" was playing at the same time that "Othello," starring Laurence Fishburn and Kenneth Branagh debuted. "Othello" didn't last a full week at the theatres in my home town, meanwhile, "Dumb and Dumber" was playing at two different theatres, on two screens each. What do you do? You shrug your shoulders, mumble something to the effect of "very strange," and go on about your daily business. With regard to the earning of experience, the simple fact is that, as mentioned previously, it simply doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. It is an indicator of roughly three things:
    1. You tend to be at least a modestly decent perl programmer
    2. You tend to be fairly active on this site
    3. You tend not to be a jerk
    I would argue that "experience" should be renamed "prestige." I think that is a more apt description of what it actually is. And besides, as the resident Eastern Philosopher (geez, I've put on my Philospher hat several times of late), somewhere along our journey to the destination, we realize that the journey *is* the destination. It is all about acquiring knowledge and experience, and ability to abstractly link the two. Only through that can we ever hope to have a modicum of wisdom.
    ___________________
    Kurt
Re^2: The true PerlMonks Experience
by Aristotle (Chancellor) on Nov 06, 2001 at 00:22 UTC
    I second that. I have in my short time here never --'ed a post and am never going to regardless of how long I stay. There is a slight purpose to the -- in that flames or otherwise undesirable content may catch a lot of downvotes and thus bubble into the attention of moderators. But couldn't that just be handled explicitly by a "Condemn this post" link that reports a node?

    (Btw: Amen was a great idea to use instead of ++, nice attention to detail :) Inspired me to use "condemn" rather than "report" too :))
Re: Re: The true PerlMonks Experience
by Ferret (Scribe) on Nov 03, 2001 at 03:39 UTC
    Amen.