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in reply to Re^2: Y.A.N.F: Personal Nodelet enhancements. (yuck)
in thread Y.A.N.F: Personal Nodelet enhancements.

The only comments i really recall were about the Titlebar Settings that I put together.

They were about the design being overkill and about a simple text box being better. They apply to the design of both things. I didn't realize that you weren't "hearing" them to the point that you didn't even understand what we were proposing or I wouldn't have written my reply above in the same way. I even recall the discussion covering how we wouldn't need to filter or anything since they are only displayed to the user who wrote them, so at least I wasn't the only one who understood it. I'm not sure if you hung around for the full duration, though. I'm sorry if this criticism came as a surprise or shock to you. I certainly didn't think it would be.

If you idea of a personal nodelet is a scratchpad in a box.

Is that ridicule? (: Well, if a simple textbox interface makes it a scratchpad, then I hope you'll read this scratchpad-in-a-threaded-discussion that I'm writing.

I will say that my thinking was mostly along the lines of "make the current stuff easier to control" not "redesign it in a totally different fashion".

Well, I don't see how it is "totally different". But perhaps that is a clue that you should put more effort into thinking about the design, discussing it, and hearing criticisms of it and put less effort into cranking out code. Not to say that I'm not glad you can contrib the effort to write so much code for PerlMonks. I appreciate the work.

I will say one thing. This is the most detailed criticism ive seen of anything ive posted here, including this code about 4 months ago. So i dont feel too bad about it not fitting your exact (unsupplied) specification.

Well, I'm sure I've said "just a textbox" to you before. And I don't see how you consider what I wrote to be an "exact specification". About all I've said as far as specification was "just a textbox" and then added some explanation of why I think that is a better idea (which is not 'specification').

And ill also work on giving you your scratchpad in a box too. :-)

I have yet to hear any advantage of the complex interface over the simple textbox, so I don't see any reason for "too". This looks like another example of the "I'll do it tye's way just to make him happy" announcement rather that pushing back with some reason why you'd do it differently. I gave reasons why I think a textbox is a better. I didn't just say "I want a textbox". Tell me why your idea is better and you might convince me.

In the long run i think most people will appreciate what ive given them even if you don't.

I appreciate the time and effort you've donated. You complain about not getting enough criticism but often don't seem to be able to take it when you do get it (nothing unusual there, of course; taking criticism isn't easy).

- tye