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in reply to Environments extended with embeded Perl: are they for real?

I decided to look back at vi; or more precisely to its vim avatar. Except for the lack a of a decent pager and the ability to run shell or debugger. It seems pretty nifty.

Do you mean by this that you think vim lacks the ability to run a shell? My vim lets me do this! Just prefix the command with :!.

:!/bin/sh [No write since last change] sh-2.05b$
Maybe you have rvim a restricted vim that doesn't let you do this? Or maybe I am misunderstanding?