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in reply to Downvoting -- No XP

I disagree with any kind of penalty for downvoting. If you're doing it to remove trolling, or a simply dangerous suggestion, then I really don't think you should suffer for doing something to help give people consider'ing the node a clue as to what people think. If people felt that downvoting was more frowned upon than it already is then I don't think they'd do it, thus losing us a valuable ability and indicator as to what people think.

People who downvote with restraint and discretion are doing Perlmonks at least as much good as someone who upvotes wildly on anything they see. I don't see why they shouldn't get at least as much XP-recognition in that.

Myself I try not to downvote unless I think it's actually harming Perlmonks and the people who'd take this advise to have it there, or if it's a question which shows absolutely zero effort before asking.

It's not censorship, it's not a personality campaign, it's quality control.

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Re: Re: Downvoting -- No XP
by Biker (Priest) on May 24, 2002 at 13:24 UTC

    "It's not censorship, it's not a personality campaign, it's quality control."

    Honestly, there are some examples of the contrary on this site. I'm sure you could come up with a few of those without me pointing fingers to specific monks.


    Everything went worng, just as foreseen.

      This is true, I was more thinking of the way people should vote- and the way I now do try and vote.

      I think you get the personality cult problem on upvotes as well, and in an 'ideal world' it shouldn't be 'XP for ++s, no XP for --s', it should be 'XP for sensible voting, no XP for stupid voting'. By stupid voting I mean things like the personality cult (Both positive and negative), voting on the basis of personal opinion ('I disagree with you so I will downvote your opinion'), the spending of all votes in an effort to gain more personal XP, and so on.

      I don't think the stopping of XP for --s will help here though. I'd hope it wouldn't make any difference, with those who'd -- sensibly not being overly dissuaded, but I can see it detracting those borderline people who still do have the XP lure but also the conscience.

      Voting issues here, both good and bad, come ultimately down to the individual. I don't think trying to code round that will help any and it's going to end up being a case of taking the rough with the smooth.