We've sat and contemplated the meaning of the universe, why we aren't rich, why Bill Gates IS, and how good (or bad) the new Broadway version of Jesus Christ Superstar is compared to the original and the movie. We've fought side by side on various descents into our own personal hells and back...and we STILL like each other. I'd say IRL I'm..., but this is as real as when I'm not at a terminal..lets say 'in the world of flesh' I'm known as Michel Bartolone. I'm a generation Jones 40something father with 3 sons, and have remained married to the same woman for just about 20 years. Oddly enough I've been working for the same huge corporation for just about that same length of time. I do have a rich life outside of perl/unix/linux/computer/geekdome. It includes folding origami, bonsai, blacksmithing and I am about to learn tai chi chuan. Despite all that, I still do grok geek. -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GE/CS/!$ d-@ s:+ a+ C++++ ULHIS+++>++++ P+++>++++ L++ E--- W++ N+ w--- M-- V-- PS+ PE Y PGP- t+ 5 X+ R tv++ b+ DI++++ D+ G- e* h---- r+++ z+++**>$ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------